Why I'm not buying the new album

JB-IsleOfMan · Posts: 16 Join date: 2008-04-28 Age: 32

Jess wrote:

Here we go again Wink

... The guy is 50 by now, and he has a life besides all the music stuff...

How dare he? Laughing

I'd love to see the BSO over here in the UK, but I'd much rather see the Cats come our way again (Yes, I know it was farewell but they missed the last few gigs following the accident, and I was waiting at the Manchester gig to see them...)

I've resigned myself that neither event will happen, and I'll have to save up and head stateside for my first and probably only Cats or BSO gig...

I agree with everyone here - it would be great for a visit from The Brian, but business is business... shame, but reality.

JB

(edit to say, despite that, I'll be getting the CD. Why the heck not!!)

Spanishdavid · Posts: 594 Join date: 2008-04-19 Location: Valencia, Spain

Rick, I don't think the BSO sells more tickets in the US than in Europe; I seriously doubt it. I've been to several BSO shows before.

But, of course, logistics are easier in the US for them to move from town to town.

And, about the crowd in Europe... most of the rockers attending the Stray Cats gigs would be the ones going to BSO shows. Fans are loyal to Setzer, no matter what musicians he tours with. I think Jon was right about that: Madrid, Barcelona, Paris, London, Rome, Munich/ Berlin, Helsinki and others, would bring more than 2 or 3,000 people in. Other thing is if those tickets would cover all the expenses; that, I don't know... And I believe they might not... otherwise they would be here...

Andi SBG · Posts: 965 Join date: 2008-05-17

Don't forget the huge lighted BSO sign, the bandstands, the instruments and all the equipment.... (think about how much it costs to mail a simple box international! Kidding, I'm not saying the rates are the same, just that it's bloody expensive.) The amount of STUFF that has to be dragged around the world - not just people - makes touring an exceedingly expensive proposition for ANY outfit, let alone one with 18 musicians, two back up singers and who knows how many support staff. Then there's paying all their salaries and their rooms and their food. I think it's ridiculous to think that Brian should foot the bill for ALL of that, especially if there's any chance he's going to be playing to half empty venues.

Guitarmaniac · Subject: Re: Why I'm not buying the new album Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:09 pm

I volunteer to let the whole BSO sleep at my house if they come to munich lol!

I don't have the new album yet, but I'll buy it. I just have to wait till i get the chance to pick it up at the record store myself, along with the new RHH Album!

Brett · Posts: 465 Join date: 2008-09-05 Age: 44

Andi wrote:

Don't forget the huge lighted BSO sign, the bandstands, the instruments and all the equipment.... (think about how much it costs to mail a simple box international! Kidding, I'm not saying the rates are the same, just that it's bloody expensive.) The amount of STUFF that has to be dragged around the world -

yep, we had the same discussion a few weeks ago.
Count for equipment airfreight ~1,-USD/pound, but only for one move.
How much weight for the gear? (instruments, stage decoration, clothes, personal cases), i guess around 10000pounds= 10.000,-USD for one equipment transport by airfreight. (And this is a low rate.)
Plus customs clearance, local trucking, local crew, local PA-system, Lightning gear, hotels, blablabla.

I`m doing this kind of work the whole day.
Touring is a tough and expensive buisness.

I would love to see the BSO live in Germany, but i know about the risk of high costs.

Cheers

B

rockabilly guy · Subject: Re: Why I'm not buying the new album Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:34 am

I made this point a while back.The BSO has NO profile in the UK apart from us diehards.The Orchestra is seen as a novelty act by many in the rockin scene here.
Yes,Brian with any rockabilly combo will always sell well over here but the Orchestra?I don't believe so.One gig in London might sell reasonably well but that would be it.The cancellation of the Royal Albert Hall Show(for which I had tickets) highlights this point.This was at the height of the BSO's career.They had been on TV a little bit with JJW and if I remember rightly were going to or at least should have released Rock This Town as a follow up.A grave mistake in my view for it would have attracted a lot of interest from people that had bought the original,not to mention airplay.
Luckily I caught them at Shepherds Bush in 99 and was fortunate enough to meet Brian backstage.I would love them to tour Europe again but don't for one minute believe it will happen.
As mentioned already,Brian has spoken of his dislike of travelling so I don't expect to see him live again.But if by chance he does come it will be a Rockabilly show.
Cheers
Steve

tvthewiredturtle · Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.

Guitarmaniac wrote:

I volunteer to let the whole BSO sleep at my house if they come to munich lol!

I don't have the new album yet, but I'll buy it. I just have to wait till i get the chance to pick it up at the record store myself, along with the new RHH Album!

new RHH is great, also interviewed in the latest Vintage Guitar player mag. .. I wish setzer would
start popping up again in Guitar Player, Premier Guitar,etc.. its about damn time for the King of the whole damn world! king

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Brett · Posts: 465 Join date: 2008-09-05 Age: 44

tvthewiredturtle wrote:

Guitarmaniac wrote:

I !

new RHH is great, :

i bought this deluxe CD edition, but i need a construction manual for that. Shocked

But the record is cool,

sorry for off topic, back to buisness...

Spanishdavid · Posts: 594 Join date: 2008-04-19 Location: Valencia, Spain

There are cargo companies that fly from the US to the whole world, dedicated only to the shipping of music instruments and other stuff.

Is not that every musician is gonna pack up his instrument and ampli and carry it like we do with our suitcases in a comercial flight.

Brett · Posts: 465 Join date: 2008-09-05 Age: 44

Spanishdavid wrote:

There are cargo companies that fly from the US to the whole world, dedicated only to the shipping of music instruments and other stuff.

Is not that every musician is gonna pack up his instrument and ampli and carry it like we do with our suitcases in a comercial flight.

yes, i know. But they use ordinary freight planes from panam or whoever. They dont own any aircrafts. These companies are very special and small.
They take care of the cargo and do all the paperwork, supervising the loading and unloading procedure. But you have to pay them for their work.
And if you fly on a commercial flight you have to pay up to 10USD per pound if you over 40 pounds or something. (i don`t know the exactly weight)

Spanishdavid · Posts: 594 Join date: 2008-04-19 Location: Valencia, Spain

I´ll find out the name of the company I´m talking about... I forgot it.

Brett · Posts: 465 Join date: 2008-09-05 Age: 44

ì know them all... Cool

Spanishdavid · Posts: 594 Join date: 2008-04-19 Location: Valencia, Spain

are you in the business? give the BSO a break and bring them on!

Brett · Posts: 465 Join date: 2008-09-05 Age: 44

yes, i am. But we work for agencies or promoter.
We do all the Light/LED and Sound Job (maybe you notice the ESC this year in Moscow, the Light and the Videopart was from our Company.) My job is to handle the logistic part. Trucking, Airfreight and seafreight arrangments.
But i never had the opportunity to work for the Cats or BSO... Sad

But i think the point is clear, people are disapointed if their favorite Artits don`t come to play live. And i am too or can understand this. But i also know how it works and how much money it costs. So it`s not a greedy or mean thing by Artits, but for sure a buisness thing. They have to calculate like we all...

tvthewiredturtle · Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.

current U2 tour has yet to break even according to their
manager. Sez the tour is costing $750.000 a day whether or not the band performs.
The set cost 40 million bucks to build and requires 120 trucks alone just for the staging.
500 people on the payroll...

that is some fun!! Smile

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