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ratfink5




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PostSubject: RE-150 vs 301?   RE-150 vs 301? Icon_minitimeTue Mar 24, 2009 7:41 pm

ok, so what if I can get my hands on a RE-150... how much different is that then the 301, the 301 adds Chorus right?

Twang Baby Twang!
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PostSubject: Re: RE-150 vs 301?   RE-150 vs 301? Icon_minitimeWed Mar 25, 2009 8:36 am

ratfink5 wrote:
ok, so what if I can get my hands on a RE-150... how much different is that then the 301, the 301 adds Chorus right?

Twang Baby Twang!

completely different circuit.. The older models used
Class A discreet components and thus transistors where used in the
preamp sections. They didnt have a lot of headroom or "hi-fi" ness to
them..

The 301 is still class A but it replaced the transistors with
Op-amp IC chips (think JRC4558).. this gave the RE301 much
more headroom and dynamic clarity with a powerful preamp that didnt
clips so quickly and fart out.

the 301 also has Bass and Treble in the tape delay recovery section that
adds a little better echo response BUT

you must know that the secret to brians space echo mojo is the
pre-amp of the 301, not the tape delay...

do a search on the Nocturn pedal I am trying to create and you can read all the technical nonsense within that thread.

Tape delays are a bitch to work with all the time and currently the only one doing it right and dependably is Fulltone with the TTE (echoplex EP-1 model that setzer uses on most all his recordings in the studio, save for the dirty boogie album that got the 301 treatment)
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ratfink5




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PostSubject: Thanks   RE-150 vs 301? Icon_minitimeWed Mar 25, 2009 8:58 am

thanks for the quick response. Dude you are a wealth of knowledge. I need one of those Nocturn pedals. I will stick with my H20 pedal for slapback for now...
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Bobby Retro

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PostSubject: Re: RE-150 vs 301?   RE-150 vs 301? Icon_minitimeWed Mar 25, 2009 6:01 pm

tvthewiredturtle wrote:
ratfink5 wrote:
ok, so what if I can get my hands on a RE-150... how much different is that then the 301, the 301 adds Chorus right?

Twang Baby Twang!

completely different circuit.. The older models used
Class A discreet components and thus transistors where used in the
preamp sections. They didnt have a lot of headroom or "hi-fi" ness to
them..

The 301 is still class A but it replaced the transistors with
Op-amp IC chips (think JRC4558).. this gave the RE301 much
more headroom and dynamic clarity with a powerful preamp that didnt
clips so quickly and fart out.

the 301 also has Bass and Treble in the tape delay recovery section that
adds a little better echo response BUT

you must know that the secret to brians space echo mojo is the
pre-amp of the 301, not the tape delay...

do a search on the Nocturn pedal I am trying to create and you can read all the technical nonsense within that thread.

Tape delays are a bitch to work with all the time and currently the only one doing it right and dependably is Fulltone with the TTE (echoplex EP-1 model that setzer uses on most all his recordings in the studio, save for the dirty boogie album that got the 301 treatment)


I agree as I have a 301 it sounds fantastic through my 63 bassman, but it is a headache!!! There is always something acting up. I'm also ready for your Nocturn pedal, and I will just use my 301 for a museum artifact.
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