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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:24 am

Anders,
I must admit you might be right despite my intial opinios on the tracks that Brian played with the Paines. After too much listening to both studio and live recordings and analyzing all the arrangements and even separating left and right channels to listen to even more in detail, Honky Tonky Hell is the only track on which Brian is guesting.

Same with Bob Geldof. the song is "In The Pouring Rain" and not "Pulled Apart By Horses" - I've done the same process and on "Pulled", despite that vibrato thing going on throughout the song when paying attention to the guitar part, it does sound more like a Stratocaster and other notes,chords, etc played by that guitar, do not sound Setzer
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:26 am

Slim Jon Phantom wrote:
Anders,
I must admit you might be right despite my intial opinios on the tracks that Brian played with the Paines. After too much listening to both studio and live recordings and analyzing all the arrangements and even separating left and right channels to listen to even more in detail, Honky Tonky Hell is the only track on which Brian is guesting.

I'm glad we agree! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:40 am



Thank you David for this great picture! I must visit Brucie's site more often.
I'm missing him, Can't get any replies to emails etc. Please someone in box me if he is ok, thanks.

I didn't realise Brian had met Geldolf etc! This is fascinating! I knew about Dave S but not Annie 'Sweet dreams are made of this' Lennox!
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:40 pm

Heya Anders,
well, after all that listening, I must admit that some of the album arrangements done by the Paines themselves were inspired by Setzer, at least that's what I can infer after listening to the 2 live shows I have. It's been quite hard, that's why I've insisted on that Setzer was on more than one song, they had the Setzer "twang", but his influence from those live shows is obvious.

About Bob Geldof... some songs have to be discarded (tracks 4, 6, 8 & 9) as Eric Clapton is on them (I discovered this from a fan site) so that as we guessed, we are on the correct way to discover that mystery.

Anders, do you have Bob Geldof's album? As you are a guitar player, you could be a great deal of help!!
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:23 pm

I'm sorry, Jon - I don't have that album. I'll see if I can track it down somehow and give it a listen. OK?
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:57 pm

Hi Jon, I found this info on the net.
How accurate it is, I don't know man.
Also, do you think it implies that Brian did contribute to more than one track then?
Hmmmm......

Bob Geldof - Deep in the Heart of Nowhere (1986)
Line-up:
Eric Clapton - Guitar ( Tracks 3, 4, 8 )
Bob Geldof - Vocals
Annie Lennox - Backing Vocals
Maria McKee - Backing Vocals
Alison Moyet - Backing Vocals
Brian Setzer - Guitar
Midge Ure - Guitar (6)

01 This is the World Calling
02 In The Pouring Rain
03 August Was a Heavy Month
04 Love Like a Rocket
05 I Cry Too
06 When I Was Young
07 This Heartless Heart
08 The Beat of the Night
09 Truly, True Blue
10 Pulled Apart by Horses
11 Words From Heaven
12 Good Boys in the Wrong
13 Night Turns To Day
14 Deep in the Heart of Nowhere
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:30 pm

Hey all.

I posted this in a different topic, but it should be here for anyone who hasn't heard the music before.

Click this link:

Click Me!!!!

This will take you to The Paine Brothers - Honky Tonk Hell. Click on the title up the top above the CD cover and you can download the CD. Personally for me, the music is too country sounding.

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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:46 am

What a great picture there of Brian with,Sir Bob, Annie and Dave!
Annie Lennox is from my home town of Aberdeen Scotland. She has new cd out too.

As for the LP for Honky tonk hell, boy would i love a copy!



Would it not be great to have a gig with all of these people, that Brian has played guitar with?
Just a pity that the great Joe Strummer and Warren Zevon, are no longer with us. But not forgotten!


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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:09 am

Quote :
What a great picture there of Brian with,Sir Bob, Annie and Dave!

yess


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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:49 am

I've met Brian and got his autographs some times.
When I met Brian on 1992 or 1993... I don't remember clearly... I bring PB's CD and some of his CDs and I ask him to sign on them. He looks surprised when he saw PB's CD. He said "Oh, Pain Bros!! My friends!!" I asked him while he signing PB's album "You played guitar on Honky tonk hell?" he said "yes" I was just asking for Honky Tonk Hell so definitely, he played guitar on Honky Tonk Hell. I'm not sure for another songs. but he didn't mention for another songs, maybe just he didn't...

about this interview ;
http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~shibby/brian_setzer_solo/honky_tonk.htm
this interview was taken on 2002. At that time, Brian said "I don't remember which song I played guitar... That was 10 years ago!!" But I asked him just about a time that PB's CD was released so I think his memory was still not lost lol
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:19 pm

Hey Steb!
thanks for the info. I think I've seen that info somewhere but I still think that BRian is just on 1-2 songs.... the hot candidates are "In the pouring rain" & "pulled apart by horses" but no sure yet...

I hate when artists do not give specific information on the album credtis, and also when guest artists do no remember what they did on a certain album. I know it can be hard, but dammit, i can't be that difficult!!

Anders, you can listen to some Bob Geldof's songs on youtube
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:04 pm

Like a Star @ heaven


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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:26 am

Slim Jon Phantom wrote:
About Bob Geldof... some songs have to be discarded (tracks 4, 6, 8 & 9) as Eric Clapton is on them (I discovered this from a fan site) so that as we guessed, we are on the correct way to discover that mystery.

Anders, do you have Bob Geldof's album? As you are a guitar player, you could be a great deal of help!!

I was able to borrow the album (which I'm glad I didn't have to buy. Not exactly my cup of tea... Razz ), and I'm pretty sure Brian's only on one of the two tracks mentioned: "In The Pouring Rain". No real lead guitar, so it's still kinda hard to tell (unlike the Clapton tracks)

As for "Pulled Apart By Horses", it just doesn't sound like Brian IMO. A clean Strat with chorus and a very busy tremolo bar...? Not his thing. Wink If he's on another track, it could be "Words From Heaven". It has a Duane Eddy-ish guitar throughout, altough it may very well have been a Strat (neck pickup) instead of a Gretsch.

At the time of this album's release, it seemed Brian had "parked" his 6120 in favour of a couple of Tele's, so the Gretsch sound is not necessarily something that needs to be part of a Setzer recording from that period. But if I were Bob, I certainly would've wanted him to bring the Gretsch if I'd asked him to play on my album... Wink

My guess is, he's only on "In The Pouring Rain". Not saying I'm 100% sure, and it really doesn't matter, does it...? Laughing


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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:03 pm

Heya Anders!
I think you're quite right in your guessings. I always thought that BS could be on "Pulled apart..." due to the characteristic tremolo/vibrato thing going on through the song but paying attention to that guitar, when it comes to playing isolated notes, to me it does sound like a Stratocaster.

On "In the pouring rain" he's the rhythm guitar that is fading out little by little all throughout the cut, that's what I initially gussed when I first heard that album. About "Words from heaven"... nah, not even close to his sound.

Truth is that in 1986 Brian was using a Telecaster during The Knife tour but as far as I know, only one of his collaborations does not sound to me like a Gretsch, and that song is "don't say goodbye" with Mystery Train, but the arrangements are clearly Setzer.

Going back to the topic, it would be very kind of Setzer if he could re-listen to Bob and Paines' albums so that he could remember the tracks on whihc he guested. I hate this mystery, and specially the artists who don't credit their guests and musicians properly (Setzer is included too...)

In the meantime, we have to content ourselves with our guessings
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:47 am

Howdy!
Sorry to bring this topic up again...

I was listening to Bob Geldodf's album and I was just wondering whether anyone had come with a "clear" conclusion concerning Brian's guest appearance with him...
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:15 pm

I gave back the album, and I didn't copy or rip any of it, so I haven't heard any of it since two years ago. As far as I'm concerned, even having Brian on guitar on one(?) track didn't help... (yawn! Wink )

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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:54 pm

Quite right...

BTW, have you heard this track with Jimmy Nellis??
It's called "Look for tomorrow" - it's on my web, you can have a look
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:54 am

[quote="Jess"]And I still need the LP for my collection if anybody wants to sell Very Happy[/quote

I just found the LP on Ebay right now, after been looking for 10 years :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Paine Bros   Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:42 am

I allways thought the track was, "In the pouring rain"

As for ,the Paine Brothers, want to find the LP!

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