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knudi

Posts: 54 Join date: 2008-04-18 Location: Norway
 | Subject: Fender 63 Reverb Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:24 pm | |
| I see that Brian used the Fender 63 Reverb on the BSO Japan tour earlier this year. What is the closest we come to 63 Reverb in pedal form you think, and what do you recomend ? Have been looking at the Danelectro Spring King Reverb, T-Rex ToneBug Reverb and also the T-Rex Roommate Tube Reverb Pedal but that was pricey. |
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Wrock

Posts: 24 Join date: 2008-07-16 Age: 41 Location: Central Germany
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:47 am | |
| Boss has a new pedal in the Legend series called the FRV-1 that is supposed to be a digital rendition of the Fender reverb unit. Havenīt had the opprtunity to test it but I am very satisfied with their RE-20 Space Echo 201 and Bassman ī50 pedals. |
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knudi

Posts: 54 Join date: 2008-04-18 Location: Norway
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:12 am | |
| | Wrock wrote: | Boss has a new pedal in the Legend series called the FRV-1 that is supposed to be a digital rendition of the Fender reverb unit. Havenīt had the opprtunity to test it but I am very satisfied with their RE-20 Space Echo 201 and Bassman ī50 pedals.
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Hey, thanks for posting. I will try this one in the local store if available. |
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tvthewiredturtle

Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:43 pm | |
| When it comes to what setzer uses, you have to remember that its not just some "effect".. there are plenty of reverb pedals and emulators. I just had one of the cooler ones last month called the Maleko Spring Chicken $150 brand new.. the fender/boss pedal is digi. Sounds cool but taking your nice analog tone and letting digi converters turn it into 1-0-1-0's then back to analog is not cool. If you have ever used a 60's Fender reverb unit, you realize that the tube preamp is responsible for the dynamics of the spring reverb pan inside AND YOUR GUITAR TONE! The tubes chosen to be used in the unit ALSO affect your tone. The entire Fender TUBE REVERB tank, is an entity unto itself... take a look inside a Fender reverb unit (upgraded parts of course) BUT if you just dont give a darn and want to pull off great rockabilly/surf sounds.. ...dont laugh....till you try it...... the Digitech Dig-verb. I guarantee filthy Reverend Horton Heat to Dick Dale Misirlou pulp fiction reverb spring splat and splish. It sounds and responds like a real spring reverb..BETTER than most actual spring reverb pedals. You can find em on ebay for $45 and they work great, plus they arent noisy like the Electroharmonix Holy Grail Reverb (i hated mine). Setting number 7 is the spring reverb setting and it rocks..  |
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ruger9

Posts: 202 Join date: 2008-05-28
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:12 am | |
| A BIG +1 on the Digiverb! Great pedal, I have one. I am interested in the new EHX Cathedral reverb coming out in August... looks like it's basically going to become their flagship reverb model. And what I love most about it is, it has a TONE/DAMPING knob! I used to have a Holy Grail Plus, which was really nice, but I need that tone knob to either "splash it up" or "warm it down", as the case requires. BTW- that Spring Chicken, as well as the new Hermida Reverb and the Lee Jackson Mr. Springy, all use the same reverb module inside. And it's NOT 100% analog, despite what Mr. Jackson says. I don't know much about electronics, but I've read people who DO state that the module cannot be classified as analog. Just FYI. The SC does sound really good... and if it had a tone knob, I would have bought one. |
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tvthewiredturtle

Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:19 am | |
| | ruger9 wrote: | A BIG +1 on the Digiverb! Great pedal, I have one.
I am interested in the new EHX Cathedral reverb coming out in August... looks like it's basically going to become their flagship reverb model. And what I love most about it is, it has a TONE/DAMPING knob! I used to have a Holy Grail Plus, which was really nice, but I need that tone knob to either "splash it up" or "warm it down", as the case requires.
BTW- that Spring Chicken, as well as the new Hermida Reverb and the Lee Jackson Mr. Springy, all use the same reverb module inside. And it's NOT 100% analog, despite what Mr. Jackson says. I don't know much about electronics, but I've read people who DO state that the module cannot be classified as analog. Just FYI. The SC does sound really good... and if it had a tone knob, I would have bought one. |
its not analog (the chickn) these boxes are ALL using that fricken low res digi chip to create faux analog.. I just wasnt impressed enough to "need" it.. |
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JC

Posts: 228 Join date: 2008-08-23 Age: 83 Location: The Land Downunder
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:40 am | |
| Analog Schmanalog, as long as it sounds good! |
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tvthewiredturtle

Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:49 am | |
| | JC wrote: | | Analog Schmanalog, as long as it sounds good! |
Its got to "feel" good too.. Actually most digital plug ins for recording are AMAZING and very difficult to tell from original items.. but when it comes to playing a guitar and a tube amp, dynamics are EVERYTHING to those who play with their souls, fingers and ears.. In fact those last three things are everything to me like a religion... |
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tvthewiredturtle

Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:02 am | |
| speaking of "schmanalog" anyone buy the boss fake fender 63' reverb pedal? how does it affect your dry signal? |
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ruger9

Posts: 202 Join date: 2008-05-28
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:17 am | |
| Mine will be here tomorrow... I'll let you know! (I'll plug it straight in... guitar-pedal-amp. I use a buffer on my board, so no pedal really messes with my dry tone. As you already know, just ONE Boss buffered pedal is probably fine, but depending on the individual pedalboard....) FWIW, over on the TDPRI (tele forum) Elliot Easton (THE Elliot Easton) is a member, and has checked in saying the FRV-1 can't so anything subtle... it's surf or nothing. But that does NOT agree with every single other review I've read of it, so it should be an interesting run thru tommorrow... The Digiverb sounds great, but mine has a hum when engaged... I've tried dedicated power supplies, batteries, taking off the board, doesn't matter. It has a slight hum that bugs the crap out of me. Too bad... the spring mode is pretty great, and I love the Church mode as well. |
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tvthewiredturtle

Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:18 am | |
| cool good to know... yes that digiverb beat out my lil lanilei spring pedal, better than the malekko, better than the dan spring king. The irony is that I dont think a 63' reissue verb tank is that great sounding. I really really like the reverb on blackface combos and the fender vibrokings reverb is amazing too. |
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ruger9

Posts: 202 Join date: 2008-05-28
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:21 am | |
| From what I have read, the reverb on the VK IS nothing more than a 63 tank put into the front end of the amp. Literally exactly the same thing as hooking up into a 63 tank then into an amp. |
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tvthewiredturtle

Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:30 am | |
| | ruger9 wrote: | | From what I have read, the reverb on the VK IS nothing more than a 63 tank put into the front end of the amp. Literally exactly the same thing as hooking up into a 63 tank then into an amp. |
I've owned one of the first Vibrokings and two reissue 63'tanks, one upgraded with "booteek" caps and NOS tubes, even tried 6K6s.. If it dont drip,boing and cluck it just aint my duck.. something about that Vibroking that made is so much more alive.. I just hated that I couldnt keep it clean at all. One of the tricks is to turn all EQ controls to off and max the volume only then to make fine adjustments...nope.. didnt work on my vibrolux, my vibrosonic,my vibroverb... gimme an ol silverface twin or deluxe with a celestion G12 anyday if its time for Dickie meets Link..
btw.. dont hate on this one but I was a mesa nut for a while and mesa had some cool weird reverb.. I had quite a few a 1x12 Blue angel, 4x12 blue angel, tremoverb |
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I'm Incinerator
Posts: 112 Join date: 2009-01-27
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:01 am | |
| TV, did you ever get to try The Gomez reverb tank? Those mesas did/do have a peculiar reverb. My old rect-o-verb had an almost smokey club prescence to it when it was engaged. My Twin RI was pretty much "let's go surfing" when it was high enough to be heard to "10" on the knob. I'm thinking I need some reverb for spaghetti western type stuff...or maybe some weird attempt at motown r&b/soul blues thang...yep...my mind is bouncing around musically. |
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tvthewiredturtle

Posts: 1763 Join date: 2008-04-20 Age: 95 Location: so cal.
 | Subject: Re: Fender 63 Reverb Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:53 am | |
| | I'm Incinerator wrote: | TV, did you ever get to try The Gomez reverb tank?
Those mesas did/do have a peculiar reverb. My old rect-o-verb had an almost smokey club prescence to it when it was engaged. My Twin RI was pretty much "let's go surfing" when it was high enough to be heard to "10" on the knob.
I'm thinking I need some reverb for spaghetti western type stuff...or maybe some weird attempt at motown r&b/soul blues thang...yep...my mind is bouncing around musically. |
nope, I had enough of gomez and his shenanigans as a dealer with the el sonidos.
regarding spag westerns.. ever listen to the Desperado and Once upon a time in mexico soundtracks? good housecleaning music.  |
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