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PostSubject: the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan   the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan Icon_minitimeMon Nov 23, 2009 3:14 am

Hey,
not long ago, we've been discussing about the economical viability of the BSO playing in Europe and we've also compared it with the Japanese tours that the BSO has made up to date.

I've searched the capacity of the Japanese venues the BSO has played to the possible venues in Europe, and that's what I've found:

City + Venue / Capacity:

Tokyo - Shibuya Kokaido: 2250
Tokyo - Lemon Hall: 2000
Tokyo - Zepp: 2700
Yokohama - Pacifico: 4000
Yokohama - Kanagawa Kemnin Hall: 2300
Sendai - Zepp: 1600
Nagoya - Shi Kokaido: 1900
Nagoya - Aichi Geijustu Gejiko: 2300
Osaka - Nanba Hatch: 1500
Osaka - Kosei Nenkin Hall: 2300
Hiroshima - Kosei Nenkin Hall: 1900
Hiroshima - Aster Plaza: 1100
Kanazawa - Kosei Nenkin Hall: 1600
Fukuoka - Shimin Kaikan: 1600

And here are the data of some venues in Europe:

Helsinki, FIN - House Of Culture: 1800
Helsinki, FIN - Ice Hall: 6500
Stockholm, SWE - Berns: 1100
Oslo, NOR - Rockefeller: 1300
Copenhagen, DEN - Amager Bio: 1100
Stuttgart, GER - Theaterhaus: 1000
Hamburg, GER - Grosse Freiheit: 1500
Cologne, GER - E-Werk: 2000
Munich, GER - Muffathalle: 1400
Zurich, SWITZ - Volkshaus: 1700
Paris, FRA - Olympia: 1900
Tilburg, HOL - 013: 2000
Amsterdam, HOL - Paradiso: 1500
Amsterdam, HOL - Heineken Music Hall: 5500
Brussels, BEL - Ancienne Belgique: 1800
Glasgow, SCO - Academy: 2500
Manchester, ENG - Academy: 2000
Dublin, IRE - Vicar Street: 1400
Barakaldo, SPA - Rockstar Live: 2000
Madrid, SPA - La Riviera: 2500

I have just written the name of two bigger venues (Ice Hall & HMH) since in those two countries the BSO is more likely to sould out those venues... however, other possible places like those are also possible in Paris, London, Madrid, etc.

If the ticket sellings were more or less alright, the BSO should come over to tour Europe, don't you think???
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PostSubject: Re: the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan   the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan Icon_minitimeMon Nov 23, 2009 6:00 am

Helsinki Icehall takes 8000 and Hartwall Areena seating capacity is 13,464 for ice hockey matches and 12,000 for concerts and other events.
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PostSubject: Re: the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan   the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan Icon_minitimeMon Nov 23, 2009 2:08 pm

Thanks for the correction, Don Pepe!
Those 6000 people capacity was what I found and what some tour itineraries say....
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PostSubject: Re: the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan   the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan Icon_minitimeWed Nov 25, 2009 9:01 am

Japan spends more money on continuous merch. I would say there is your bottom
line.
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tvthewiredturtle wrote:
Japan spends more money on continuous merch. I would say there is your bottom
line.

No, Sir. Bottom line: Fannies in seats. Japan sells out whatever venue they play... last time the BSO tried to tour Europe, there was a lot of theaters that they didn't even come close to selling out...
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PostSubject: Re: the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan   the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan Icon_minitimeWed Nov 25, 2009 9:36 am

For our English and Australian friends who may be taken aback by Budgie's turn of phrase, he's referring to a person's posterior. Rear end. Backside. Not female anatomy.
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PostSubject: Re: the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan   the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan Icon_minitimeWed Nov 25, 2009 9:43 am

Andi SBG wrote:
For our English and Australian friends who may be taken aback by Budgie's turn of phrase, he's referring to a person's posterior. Rear end. Backside. Not female anatomy.

c'mon miss PC...he meant below the equator... it always
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PostSubject: Re: the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan   the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan Icon_minitimeWed Nov 25, 2009 11:06 am

Too funny!!! Very Happy
But seriously...if you're going to talk about fannies and all parts below the equator...should it really be on the "All Things Setzer" topic, under this thread? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to start a Fanny thread in the off topic section?
Bet that would get a lot of looks!

Budgie---seriously man...clean up your language!
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PostSubject: Re: the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan   the rentability of the BSO playing in Europe vs Japan Icon_minitimeWed Nov 25, 2009 11:13 am

enjay07 wrote:
Too funny!!! Very Happy
But seriously...if you're going to talk about fannies and all parts below the equator...should it really be on the "All Things Setzer" topic, under this thread? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to start a Fanny thread in the off topic section?
Bet that would get a lot of looks!

Budgie---seriously man...clean up your language!

shoulda just said "slats" Mr. Potty mouth!
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