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Man,

now that the details have been disclosed...

When you say "SRV" sound, do you mean that big fat punchy sound like his cover of "Voodoo Chile" and "Pride and Joy"? I don't own a strat, but my plank bodied tele can get pretty convincing in the neck position.
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I'm Incinerator wrote:
Man,

now that the details have been disclosed...

When you say "SRV" sound, do you mean that big fat punchy sound like his cover of "Voodoo Chile" and "Pride and Joy"? I don't own a strat, but my plank bodied tele can get pretty convincing in the neck position.

put the tim or timmy into symmetrical clipping mode (ala tubescreamer)
and youre there. I prefer my Barber burn unit in the green channel
for SRV stuff using a strat as it gets closer to how SRV would take
his dumble, marshall, and fender amps and mix em..
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tvthewiredturtle wrote:
the bass channel is still blackfaced but the treble damper has been removed so that you can have a killer SRV channel to go with your Setzer blonde channel.

Is that a possible mod on an original 6G6-B too...? Tell me tell me tell me tell me bounce bounce geek Very Happy

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gretschoholic wrote:
tvthewiredturtle wrote:
the bass channel is still blackfaced but the treble damper has been removed so that you can have a killer SRV channel to go with your Setzer blonde channel.

Is that a possible mod on an original 6G6-B too...? Tell me tell me tell me tell me bounce bounce geek Very Happy

Anders

oh ya.. that cap in the bass channel just gets clipped out, it'd probably be
best to change it out to a different value but I feel the bass channel on a blonde become another whole monster because it has an extra gain stage that the normal channel DOES NOT and what you get is that
old Pete Townsend "who's next" tone with humbucker guitars because
as the treble control is turned up, the gain in the tone stack is unhindered.. Of course this has to now be attenuated with dialing back
the presence control and in the case of my spectrasonic, pluggin into the 2nd input of the bass channel yields a near ac30/marshall JTM45
sound and you can HEAR why Marshall and Vox used the old tweed
bassman for this purpose and thus you get to eat of the "fruits" in the unique blonde/brownface series fender amps that carry over the tweed
gain and the blonde clean. this yields a crunchy twang with girth that you dont find in other amps. I can only liken it to the who and acdc when employing your gretsch.

When you use a planker like a tele or strat with fat pickups, you can feel happy again that this amp isnt stuck in surf mode, and SRV mojo gets met with a hillbilly twang.

Strangely if you do this mod to a repro bassman, the amp wants to tear your face off unless the treble pot is completely dialed back. Not so with the vintage iron... a simple mod that can be reversed easily.

remember one hand behind your back, amp unplugged, rubber soled shoes and insulated wire snips... or electrocution and death could result in fooling around the chassis of a vintage amp. I do not affirm in any way that you should attempt this mod, I just share the love of what goodies lie inside the blonde beast!

ps. Orange drop coupling caps in the bass channel are awesome, although mallory 150 series "mustards" make for a smoother crunch.
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The power supply caps can be "safely" drained by grounding them to earth through a load. I generally use a voltmeter because then you can watch the voltage drop. As TV stated, one hand in your pocket at all times! Even after draining them. It's best, and always recommended, that you should have your tube amp serviced by a pro. The amount of current in these beasties is more than enough to cause your life insurance to pay out, so if you're not sure, don't mess with it. The mod of which TV speaks (writes?) would probably not be too costly to have done for you.
For those of you with a death wish and a lack of knowledge/experience in these matters, proceed! pirat
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Daddio wrote:
The power supply caps can be "safely" drained by grounding them to earth through a load. I generally use a voltmeter because then you can watch the voltage drop. As TV stated, one hand in your pocket at all times! Even after draining them. It's best, and always recommended, that you should have your tube amp serviced by a pro. The amount of current in these beasties is more than enough to cause your life insurance to pay out, so if you're not sure, don't mess with it. The mod of which TV speaks (writes?) would probably not be too costly to have done for you.
For those of you with a death wish and a lack of knowledge/experience in these matters, proceed! pirat

I wondered what happened to you...
btw..I drained the electrolytics through my body one time even though I had one hand in my pocket I was kneeling on the cement garage floor in shorts.. whoooo.. I saw the Lord....he sent me
back though.. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed that crap was some serious DC current through the old ticker, I'm lucky I guess. although heaven sounds real good right now in this economy
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tvthewiredturtle wrote:
Of course this has to now be attenuated with dialing back
the presence control and in the case of my spectrasonic, pluggin into the 2nd input of the bass channel yields a near ac30/marshall JTM45
sound and you can HEAR why Marshall and Vox used the old tweed
bassman for this purpose and thus you get to eat of the "fruits" in the unique blonde/brownface series fender amps that carry over the tweed
gain and the blonde clean. this yields a crunchy twang with girth that you dont find in other amps. I can only liken it to the who and acdc when employing your gretsch.

that sounds AWESOME! I was looking to get one of these to have a guitar rig and and a bass rig, if needed, but that bass channel mod on the 6G6-B sounds like it would kill. I'm sure you could still use a bass through it. This only comes with the 6G6-B bass channel being modded, right?

I love my Timmy, I really need to see what it can do through a bigger amp. I feel like I'm only using it at half-speed with the CR. I still need to try a Burn Unit or a Small Fry some day. I think a shop here has started to carry Barber.

Would a Marsh have too agressive of iron to have this mod sound good?

for my own safety, I would have any kind of amplifier work done by a pro. I could see myself being lit up like the Las Vegas strip...
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I'm Incinerator wrote:
tvthewiredturtle wrote:
Of course this has to now be attenuated with dialing back
the presence control and in the case of my spectrasonic, pluggin into the 2nd input of the bass channel yields a near ac30/marshall JTM45
sound and you can HEAR why Marshall and Vox used the old tweed
bassman for this purpose and thus you get to eat of the "fruits" in the unique blonde/brownface series fender amps that carry over the tweed
gain and the blonde clean. this yields a crunchy twang with girth that you dont find in other amps. I can only liken it to the who and acdc when employing your gretsch.

that sounds AWESOME! I was looking to get one of these to have a guitar rig and and a bass rig, if needed, but that bass channel mod on the 6G6-B sounds like it would kill. I'm sure you could still use a bass through it. This only comes with the 6G6-B bass channel being modded, right?

I love my Timmy, I really need to see what it can do through a bigger amp. I feel like I'm only using it at half-speed with the CR. I still need to try a Burn Unit or a Small Fry some day. I think a shop here has started to carry Barber.

Would a Marsh have too agressive of iron to have this mod sound good?

for my own safety, I would have any kind of amplifier work done by a pro. I could see myself being lit up like the Las Vegas strip...

A bass works in a bassman, but Even though its not the ideal situation for a bass that freakin amp has a huge footprint and I've been scared to really turn it up when I have my old 60s mosrite copy bass plugged into
it. Scared of F'n up my nicely worn in Vintage 30s that is..

I've used the head in a pinch with a community 15" P.A. cab and it handles most rock stuff... although its retarded in comparison to
to say this Gem I want (kills even with a 5 string) for our 51 kay upright:
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tvthewiredturtle wrote:
I wondered what happened to you...
btw..I drained the electrolytics through my body one time even though I had one hand in my pocket I was kneeling on the cement garage floor in shorts.. whoooo.. I saw the Lord....he sent me
back though.. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed that crap was some serious DC current through the old ticker, I'm lucky I guess. although heaven sounds real good right now in this economy

I wondered what happened to you, and now I know! Very Happy
I've been on the fringes watching the carnage from afar and, I must say TV, I have been impressed! Laughing

I've never found God directly through missapplied amplifier current, but, in the same vein, I'm certain I saw Elvis in about 1980 when I bumped my face into an SM58 and learned about ground isolation in a blinding flash! Shocked

I flicked the ground switch on the back of my Marshall as soon as I regained some of my voluntary senses! I've always carried a ground checker
and made certain the amps and PA were all grounded properly ever since!

Never studied, hah! cheers
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Daddio wrote:
tvthewiredturtle wrote:
I wondered what happened to you...
btw..I drained the electrolytics through my body one time even though I had one hand in my pocket I was kneeling on the cement garage floor in shorts.. whoooo.. I saw the Lord....he sent me
back though.. Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed that crap was some serious DC current through the old ticker, I'm lucky I guess. although heaven sounds real good right now in this economy

I wondered what happened to you, and now I know! Very Happy
I've been on the fringes watching the carnage from afar and, I must say TV, I have been impressed! Laughing

I've never found God directly through missapplied amplifier current, but, in the same vein, I'm certain I saw Elvis in about 1980 when I bumped my face into an SM58 and learned about ground isolation in a blinding flash! Shocked

I flicked the ground switch on the back of my Marshall as soon as I regained some of my voluntary senses! I've always carried a ground checker
and made certain the amps and PA were all grounded properly ever since!

Never studied, hah! cheers

you know I've always had those moments with a metal grilled mic and
the joy of your lips feeling like they've been flicked with a rat trap, but
I really had the tar scared out of me using an original Shure unidyne 55
(the elvis mic) while plugged into a little silverface fender amp.. When I stuck my lips up on that giant hunk of metal to sing I have to agree I was knocked senseless for second..but damn I didnt get to see elvis, I think you came real close to winning the race there. (was he wearing
a karate suit?)

some of us got have 9 lives when it comes to electricity and I'm thinkin its related to how thick your creepers are. Smile
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tvthewiredturtle wrote:

you know I've always had those moments with a metal grilled mic and
the joy of your lips feeling like they've been flicked with a rat trap, but
I really had the tar scared out of me using an original Shure unidyne 55
(the elvis mic) while plugged into a little silverface fender amp.. When I stuck my lips up on that giant hunk of metal to sing I have to agree I was knocked senseless for second..but damn I didnt get to see elvis, I think you came real close to winning the race there. (was he wearing
a karate suit?)

some of us got have 9 lives when it comes to electricity and I'm thinkin its related to how thick your creepers are. Smile

I worked for the Lincoln Electric Service (power utility) one summer in college and got to see the gruesome safety films of guys not observing
proper etiquette around pad-mount transformers! Shocked
One poor soul left only his boots at the scene. Of course, we're talking about much higher current supplies in this case, but, dead is dead! Twisted Evil
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