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A Sad Day for guys my age 04-05-09-farrah_fawcett_swimsuit_poster_70s

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Ohhh, very bad and sad news...
RIP lovely girl

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Wow. Two 70s icons in the same week. (Ed McMahon was popular for 5 decades, but the 70s was when The Tonight Show was at its most dominant in American Pop Culture.)

Since celebrity deaths seem to happen in threes, I fear Walter Cronkite may be next.

Thanks for putting up The Poster, Sharky! I think that thing was responsible for accelerating the onset of puberty in plenty of 10 and 11 year-old boys back in 1976-78. And she was married to the Six Million Dollar Man!

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I think that thing was responsible for accelerating the onset of puberty in plenty of 10 and 11 year-old boys back in 1976-78. And she was married to the Six Million Dollar Man!

Mortality Bites-a-billy

Ohh, you're so right Rolling Eyes

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Since celebrity deaths seem to happen in threes, I fear Walter Cronkite may be next.

If one doesn't count David Carradine, it could be Michael Jackson:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-rushed-to-the-hospital/

(hate to link to TMZ but nobody else is reporting it yet...)

EDIT: TMZ is now reporting that Michael Jackson has died.
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I am stunned. Not necessarily surprised that he died younger than expected, but it's still shocking nonetheless. Despite the sideshow his life had become over the last 20 years, he still left us with some of the most popular recordings of all time.

ABC/I Want You Back was the first 45 I ever owned, and the Jackson 5 were a huge part of my pre-Farrah 70s.

Thriller was the one album that kept Built For Speed from reaching #1.

Stunned.
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Gee, a really sad day, I pray that they all rest in peace.
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CNN has posted a Michael Jackson career retrospective. He made an amazing contribution to popular music - and is a huge part of my early years, and those of many others here I'm sure.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/jackson/index.html


(CNN) -- Michael Jackson, the show-stopping singer whose best-selling albums -- including "Off the Wall," "Thriller" and "Bad" -- and electrifying stage presence made him one of the most popular artists of all time, died Thursday, CNN has confirmed.

He was 50.

He collapsed at his residence in the Holmby Hills section of Los Angeles, California, about noon Pacific time, suffering cardiac arrest, according to brother Randy Jackson. He died at UCLA Medical Center.

Lt. Fred Corral of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office said an autopsy would probably be done on the singer Friday, with results expected that afternoon.

"Michael Jackson made culture accept a person of color," the Rev. Al Sharpton said. "To say an 'icon' would only give these young people in Harlem a fraction of what he was. He was a historic figure that people will measure music and the industry by."

Jackson's blazing rise to stardom -- and later fall from grace -- is among the most startling of show business tales. The son of a steelworker, he rose to fame as the lead singer of the Jackson 5, a band he formed with his brothers in the late 1960s. By the late '70s, as a solo artist, he was topping the charts with cuts from "Off the Wall," including "Rock With You" and "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough."

In 1982, he released "Thriller," an album that eventually produced seven hit singles. An appearance the next year on a Motown Records 25th-anniversary special cemented his status as the biggest star in the country. Timeline: The life of Michael Jackson »

For the rest of the 1980s, they came no bigger. "Thriller's" follow-up, 1987's "Bad," sold almost as many copies. A new Jackson album -- a new Jackson appearance -- was a pop culture event. iReport: Share your memories of Michael Jackson

The pop music landscape was changing, however, opening up for rap, hip-hop and what came to be called "alternative" -- and Jackson was seen as out of step.

His next release, 1991's "Dangerous," debuted at No. 1 but "only" produced one top-ranking single -- "Black or White" -- and that song earned criticism for its inexplicably violent ending, in which Jackson was seen smashing car windows and clutching his crotch.

And then "Dangerous" was knocked out of its No. 1 spot on the album charts by Nirvana's "Nevermind," an occurrence noted for its symbolism by rock critics.

After that, more attention was paid to Jackson's private life than his music career, which faltered. A 1995 two-CD greatest hits, "HIStory," sold relatively poorly, given the huge expense of Jackson's recording contract: about 7 million copies, according to Recording Industry of America certifications.

A 2001 album of new material, "Invincible," did even worse.

In 2005, he went to trial on child-molestation charges. He was acquitted.

In July 2008, after three years away from the spotlight, Jackson announced a series of concerts at London's O2 Arena as his "curtain call." Some of the shows, initially scheduled to begin in July, were eventually postponed until 2010.

Rise to stardom

Michael Jackson was born August 29, 1958, to Joe Jackson, a Gary, Indiana, steelworker, and his wife, Katherine. By the time he was 6, he had joined his brothers in a musical group organized by his father, and by the time he was 10, the group -- the Jackson 5 -- had been signed to Motown.

He made his first television appearance at age 11.

Jackson, a natural performer, soon became the group's front man. Music critic Langdon Winner, reviewing the group's first album, "Diana Ross Presents the Jackson 5," for Rolling Stone, praised Michael's versatile singing and added, "Who is this 'Diana Ross,' anyway?"

The group's first four singles -- "I Want You Back," "ABC," "The Love You Save" and "I'll Be There" -- went to No. 1 on the Billboard pop chart, the first time any group had pulled off that feat. There was even a Jackson 5 cartoon series on ABC.

In 1972, he hit No. 1 as a solo artist with the song "Ben."

The group's popularity waned as the '70s continued, and Michael eventually went solo full time. He played the Scarecrow in the 1978 movie version of "The Wiz," and released the album "Off the Wall" in 1979. Its success paved the way for "Thriller," which eventually became the best-selling album in history, with 50 million copies sold worldwide.

At that point, Michael Jackson became ubiquitous.

Seven of "Thriller's" nine cuts were released as singles; all made the Top Ten. The then-new cable channel MTV, criticized for its almost exclusively white playlist, finally started playing Jackson's videos. They aired incessantly, including a 14-minute minimovie of the title cut. ("Weird Al" Yankovic cemented his own stardom by lampooning Jackson's song "Beat It" with a letter-perfect parody video.)

On the Motown Records' 25th-anniversary special -- a May 1983 TV extravaganza with notable turns by the Temptations, the Four Tops and Smokey Robinson -- it was Michael Jackson who stopped the show.

Already he was the most popular musician in America, riding high with "Thriller." But something about his electrifying performance of "Billie Jean," complete with the patented backward dance moves, boosted his stardom to a new level.

People copied his Jheri-curled hair and single-gloved, zippered-jacket look. Showbiz veterans such as Fred Astaire praised his chops. He posed for photos with Ronald and Nancy Reagan at the White House. Paul McCartney teamed with him on three duets, two of which -- "The Girl Is Mine" and "Say Say Say" -- became top five hits. Jackson became a Pepsi spokesman, and when his hair caught fire while making a commercial, it was worldwide news.

It all happened very fast -- within a couple years of the Motown special. But even at the time of the "Motown 25" moonwalk, fame was old hat to Michael Jackson. He hadn't even turned 25 himself, but he'd been a star for more than half his life. He was given the nickname the "King of Pop" -- a spin on Elvis Presley's status as "the King of Rock 'n' Roll" -- and few questioned the moniker.

Relentless attention

But, as the showbiz saying has it, when you're on top of the world, there's nowhere to go but down. The relentless attention given Jackson started focusing as much on his eccentricities -- some real, some rumored -- as his music.

As the Web site Allmusic.com notes, he was rumored to sleep in a hyperbaric chamber and to have purchased the bones of John Merrick, the "Elephant Man." (Neither was true.) He did have a pet chimpanzee, Bubbles; underwent a series of increasingly drastic plastic surgeries; established an estate, Neverland, filled with zoo animals and amusement park rides; and managed to purchase the Beatles catalog from under Paul McCartney's nose, which displeased the ex-Beatle immensely.

In 1990s and 2000s, Jackson found himself pasted across the media for his short-lived marriages, the first to Elvis Presley's daughter, Lisa Marie; his 2002 claim that then Sony Records head Tommy Mottola was racist; his behavior and statements during a 2003 interview with British journalist Martin Bashir done for a documentary called "Living With Michael Jackson;" his changing physical appearance; and, above all, the accusations that he sexually molested young boys at Neverland.

The first such accusation, in 1993, resulted in a settlement to the 13-year-old accuser (rumored to be as high as $20 million), though no criminal charges were filed, Allmusic.com notes.

He also fell deeply in debt and was forced to sell some of his assets. Neverland was one of many holdings that went on the block. However, an auction of material from Neverland, scheduled for April, was called off and all items returned to Jackson.

Interest in Jackson never faded, however, even if some of it was prurient. In 2008, when he announced 10 comeback shows in London, beginning in July 2009, the story made worldwide news. The number of concerts was later increased to 50.

Seventy-five thousand tickets sold in four hours when they went on sale in March.

However, when the shows were postponed until 2010, rumors swept the Internet that Jackson was not physically prepared and possibly suffering from skin cancer.

At the time, the president and CEO of AEG Live, Randy Phillips, said, "He's as healthy as can be -- no health problems whatsover."

Jackson held open auditions for dancers in April in Los Angeles.

He is survived by his three children, Prince Michael I, Paris and Prince Michael II.
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RIP Farrah. Very sad.

Michael, I hope it dosnt turn out that he died from the enablers around him providing prescriptions and drugs to keep him happy and in his favor. That would suck.
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And she was married to the Six Million Dollar Man!

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Oh, i was thinking it was Colt Sievers. Wink

RIP Farrah,

we all loved you back in the 70ies.
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RIP F.F. I had your poster on my door in 6th grade!

michael jackson... inspiration to many as a talented black soul brother! Then you screwed it up with jesusjuice and boys... good luck with all
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Sad to learn that Farrah just passed away. One of my first "pin up"...
RIP.
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Rickabilly wrote:
Since celebrity deaths seem to happen in threes, I fear Walter Cronkite may be next.


I bet somewhere Walter Cronkite is breathing a sigh of relief... It may be one of his last breaths, but I'm sure he's relieved!!

I don't believe anyone is dead until Chad posts it!!

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I wish they had given a beautiful woman who defined the poster girl as much coverage as they gave a rich pedophile.

No matter what anyone tells you MJ was no Elvis, but Farrah was the next Norma Jean.
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Well said Sharky.
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yep...
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Jeez TV, do you seriously agree with that?
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We can't diasagree with that, Sharky!

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We can't diasagree with that, Sharky!

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Whys that now Frenchy???
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FrenchyCat wrote:
We can't diasagree with that, Sharky!

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Whys that now Frenchy???

for some reason you've been shielded from the monster called
MJ after he was a cool black singer/entertainer, perhaps?
This wasnt some Fat Elvis era star..whole 'nuther level of depravity
after the golden years of pop superstardom
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DEXTER wrote:
FrenchyCat wrote:
We can't diasagree with that, Sharky!

FC

Whys that now Frenchy???

for some reason you've been shielded from the monster called
MJ after he was a cool black singer/entertainer, perhaps?
This wasnt some Fat Elvis era star..whole 'nuther level of depravity
after the golden years of pop superstardom

Not even slightly Buddy, read all the transcripts, recommened reading in my profession.

Did you ever hear of the power of the media? Jesus, have we learned nothing from Albert Goldman? I dont know if MJ did abuse those children, I have to admit, but you know what neither does anyone else, yet he's being called a peadophile on this forum, whats that about?

Some very vicious people are putting their point across, apart from the fact thats its probably libelous. Thats dangerous talk about a man who was tried and the case dismissed. Everyone's got an opinion and its a good thing to be able to put that across but guys some intelligence please.

The whole thing stinks of mob rule and 'common wisdom'!!! Whats next, a lynch mob? I challenge anyone on this site to come up with some real evidence that this man has done anything wrong?

It would be easy to say that he paid everyone off, thats silly, theres still a tried and tested judicial process, theres ne getting round that, even if the witnesses wont testify.

The fact is theres is no evidence. I dont know, but the chances are this man is being judged on his erratic behaviour and theres no doubt that it was erratic! He displayed some very strange behaviour, lets not forget that he was also abused as a child and perhaps he was looking for another childhood by wanting children around him?? Inappropriate, definitely!
Who knows?

Been reading some of the messages on this site and its like vultures on his corpse, sickening!
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DEXTER wrote:
tvthewiredturtle wrote:
DEXTER wrote:
FrenchyCat wrote:
We can't diasagree with that, Sharky!

FC

Whys that now Frenchy???

for some reason you've been shielded from the monster called
MJ after he was a cool black singer/entertainer, perhaps?
This wasnt some Fat Elvis era star..whole 'nuther level of depravity
after the golden years of pop superstardom

Not even slightly Buddy, read all the transcripts, recommened reading in my profession.

Did you ever hear of the power of the media? Jesus, have we learned nothing from Albert Goldman? I dont know if MJ did abuse those children, I have to admit, but you know what neither does anyone else, yet he's being called a peadophile on this forum, whats that about?

Some very vicious people are putting their point across, apart from the fact thats its probably libelous. Thats dangerous talk about a man who was tried and the case dismissed. Everyone's got an opinion and its a good thing to be able to put that across but guys some intelligence please.

The whole thing stinks of mob rule and 'common wisdom'!!! Whats next, a lynch mob? I challenge anyone on this site to come up with some real evidence that this man has done anything wrong?

It would be easy to say that he paid everyone off, thats silly, theres still a tried and tested judicial process, theres ne getting round that, even if the witnesses wont testify.

The fact is theres is no evidence. I dont know, but the chances are this man is being judged on his erratic behaviour and theres no doubt that it was erratic! He displayed some very strange behaviour, lets not forget that he was also abused as a child and perhaps he was looking for another childhood by wanting children around him?? Inappropriate, definitely!
Who knows?

Been reading some of the messages on this site and its like vultures on his corpse, sickening!


....sigh

I'm sure you predicating your retort to my responses solely under the conjecture that I am judging him only on his alledged pedophyllic misadventures... whether those circumstances were true or not, its just one SMALLL slice of the pie in Jackson world of twisted.

On a base level, he took himself into depths of hedonism like no
other..I dont need bogus media reports to spell anything out for me,
its been obvious for the last decade just from his physical modifications,etc..

All to say, I think he became one nasty ass circus clown in his later years. He was once an amazing and powerful talent..once. Then he let us see what success,money and power can result in if allowed to indulge itself without measure.
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Absolutely, I agree, but I dont agree with"He took himself.."

It sounds like MJ was the product of good ole Joe Jackson, so if you're looking for someone to blame for unusual behaviour, why not him? Jesus, I heard on the news today that he was even trying to promote his business in some of the statements!!

MJ has been twisted, no doubt, as any vulnerable child would be. He's not the first, look at Judy Garland, Elizabeth Taylor, etc same thing, MJ was much more extreme, maybe more vulnerable in te first place.

My point whats to be gained by pissing on the man's grave. How would you like it? This is all built out of rumour and conjecture, you realise that don't you? I remember Albert Goldman's book on Elvis...and John Lennon,just muck raking to sell a book.

Granted there were extremes, excesses and questionable behaviour, now bare in mind that this is mostly media conjecture, but does that so offend people that they have to publicly libel the guy. Wheres the bleeding evidence of wrong doing? And while we're on the point what did the 'fat Elvis', and I hate using that expression, do that as so wrong, surely he was only harming himself. He's one person I can look at with hand on heart and say there was a great man...warts and all. A cultural revolution..now who else started a cultural revolution?....only difference is MJ was black, did you ever think of that wee gem? The media is inherently racist in the US, UK, Ireland and the biggest part of Europe...open any paper!!!
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["DEXTER said"]

It sounds like MJ was the product of good ole Joe Jackson, so if you're looking for someone to blame for unusual behaviour, why not him






that's the problem with social worker's these day's init It's not the perpetraitor's of the crime at fault it's their parent's, yes blame the parent's Dex it's their fault Isn't IT...!!!! The social work has taught you well Dexter glad to know the world is safe in your hand's pal OPEN YOUR eye's man and WAKE UP.......
Listen to yourself Making excuse's...!!!!!! There IS no excuse for harming a child. EVEN if his father did harm him, he then should have known better nuff said.....!!!!!
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Absolutely, I agree, but I dont agree with"He took himself.."

It sounds like MJ was the product of good ole Joe Jackson, so if you're looking for someone to blame for unusual behaviour, why not him? Jesus, I heard on the news today that he was even trying to promote his business in some of the statements!!

MJ has been twisted, no doubt, as any vulnerable child would be. He's not the first, look at Judy Garland, Elizabeth Taylor, etc same thing, MJ was much more extreme, maybe more vulnerable in te first place.

My point whats to be gained by pissing on the man's grave. How would you like it? This is all built out of rumour and conjecture, you realise that don't you? I remember Albert Goldman's book on Elvis...and John Lennon,just muck raking to sell a book.

Granted there were extremes, excesses and questionable behaviour, now bare in mind that this is mostly media conjecture, but does that so offend people that they have to publicly libel the guy. Wheres the bleeding evidence of wrong doing? And while we're on the point what did the 'fat Elvis', and I hate using that expression, do that as so wrong, surely he was only harming himself. He's one person I can look at with hand on heart and say there was a great man...warts and all. A cultural revolution..now who else started a cultural revolution?....only difference is MJ was black, did you ever think of that wee gem? The media is inherently racist in the US, UK, Ireland and the biggest part of Europe...open any paper!!!

'm not racist mate, I totally dug MJ when he was a BLACK man! pirat

btw.. I dont think the commentary here really qualifies for pissin' on a dead bloke's grave now, really.
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