hey TV - and anybody - Boss RE-20

Gotta sell off my stock on hand before I can pay for that amp. He was still building
it last time we spoke.
anyone want a blonde 212 bassman cab reissue w/ oxblood grill?
or this....

Just got me the T-Rex Reptile. So far I like it and at the moment I am comparing along with the Red Repeat.
Together with the TIM it is dynamite.

knudi wrote:

Just got me the T-Rex Reptile. So far I like it and at the moment I am comparing along with the Red Repeat.
Together with the TIM it is dynamite.

so.... youre gonna compare a hooker from harlem to a call girl from Paris?

Just did...
As the hooker from Harlem had a warm tone which I kind of liked I am now moving on the with the girl from Paris. She had a nice crispy tone with alot of experience and alot of different strings to play on. Really liked the slapback she gave me and I must say she is really into Setzer. Together with TIM they are Bonnie & Clyde.

Next week I am hooking up with Paris big sister. Either she is really bad or just anohter expensive call girl.

knudi wrote:

Just did...
As the hooker from Harlem had a warm tone which I kind of liked I am now moving on the with the girl from Paris. She had a nice crispy tone with alot of experience and alot of different strings to play on. Really liked the slapback she gave me and I must say she is really into Setzer. Together with TIM they are Bonnie & Clyde.

Next week I am hooking up with Paris big sister. Either she is really bad or just anohter expensive call girl.

just remember when you lay down with dogs you wake up with fleas.. n'est pas?

well I am like Cesar the dog Whisper so nothing bites on me

Well, another pedal is on it`s way - Option 5 Destination Rotation, I wanna have some Leslie into my sound. Also like the OD on this pedal which you can add on top of the Leslie.
I would imagine that this pedal is a killer on the El Sonido.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP4e7E8_WkE

knudi wrote:

well I am like Cesar the dog Whisper so nothing bites on me

Well, another pedal is on it`s way - Option 5 Destination Rotation, I wanna have some Leslie into my sound. Also like the OD on this pedal which you can add on top of the Leslie.
I would imagine that this pedal is a killer on the El Sonido.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP4e7E8_WkE

well I being a fan of all things leslie and never finding it found an old dude in the
desert that owns a leslie cab who traded me a Boss RT-20 rotary pedal as he said it
was the closest thing to the real deal. It is.. if you dial it in correct with the top horn
and cab rotar slow and fast, the brake is built in and you can control ramp speed slow and fast plus bring in a bit of overdrive.. it nails the sound better than
all the pedals I've wasted money on and I still own and cherish my fulltone mini dejavibe, my maxon cs550, my phasor 201. they are alll cool for that watery organ
b-3 meets leslie 122 chew but the stupid Boss RT-20 with the blonde is amazing.

It just that Boos cannot get their bypass mode on these particular pedals like the
re20, right. I will not have my signal chain colored by a pedal in bypass mode...
so it got sold 48hrs later. I fought it for half a day because it beats out the hughes and kettner tube rotosphere, the voce twinspin, the maestro PS-1, the fulltone stereo dejavibe (I owned #6 right after keith richards and satriani..sold that for $750 heehee) you name it..
They found away even in mono mode to give a realistic leslie 122 quickly winding
up to speed with that "wub-wub" whirring sound and the famous breaking sound as the rotars slow and do that dimension and spacial water chew that you just dont get
out of the modulation pedals I still keep on board I listed above in this rave.

I hope the option 5 is cool, I've never owned one of those and I hope it beats em
all out because I have tried to own "that" sound and the boss RT-20 really does
come close and you know what I mean if you have ever had a chance to really
stand next to a good tube driven leslie cab. let us know about the option 5 man.

I still probably wont let go of the mini deja for anything, but it would be great to
see the rt-20 and its digital baloney get a run for the money by an analog box.
Its gonna be hard though. they thought of everything on that boss rt-20 and
just hearing it in the store is not giving it a fair shake. When you have your gretsch
plugged into it and then to your closeback blonde cab, wow...

--okay, to bed at 2am

man o`man, now you are nasty with me bringing on the BOSS RT-20 which really is Leslie, and I haven`t even yet received my Option 5
My former piano/organ player had a really really Leslie which needed like 20 minutes to get started, but when it started it was the thing.

I really must admit that I have not tried that many "Leslie-pedals" other than the H&K Rotosphere, DLS Rotosim and I also used to speed up my Carl Martin Chorus XII, but I got tired of that sound because it sounded to nice and to 80`s pop. I thought it was more or less the same thing with DLS. I think the Rotosphere was the closest right until I heard the Option 5 and specially the OD which comes with it. Mean, fat and dirty just the way I want it. I also like the "floating" changeover when you switch between slow/fast. There are also small knobs were you can adjust the speed.....where is that damn thing, UPS are usually nice to me

BTW;
I am totally sold on the T-Rex Reptile, no more Harlem hookers and The Replica has to stand in line. Now my savings have to go to the El Sonido sometimes early next year. That should be the best late christmas present ever !

knudi wrote:

man o`man, now you are nasty with me bringing on the BOSS RT-20 which really is Leslie, and I haven`t even yet received my Option 5
My former piano/organ player had a really really Leslie which needed like 20 minutes to get started, but when it started it was the thing.

I really must admit that I have not tried that many "Leslie-pedals" other than the H&K Rotosphere, DLS Rotosim and I also used to speed up my Carl Martin Chorus XII, but I got tired of that sound because it sounded to nice and to 80`s pop. I thought it was more or less the same thing with DLS. I think the Rotosphere was the closest right until I heard the Option 5 and specially the OD which comes with it. Mean, fat and dirty just the way I want it. I also like the "floating" changeover when you switch between slow/fast. There are also small knobs were you can adjust the speed.....where is that damn thing, UPS are usually nice to me

BTW;
I am totally sold on the T-Rex Reptile, no more Harlem hookers and The Replica has to stand in line. Now my savings have to go to the El Sonido sometimes early next year. That should be the best late christmas present ever !

I still have yet to receive the Marsh amp Bassman to review it but they are suppose to be built better than the el sonido for some $500 less since the company is new.
something to consider..but..
email me if you want an el sonido price

The Option 5 Rotation Destination Single finally arrived.
My first impression was that there were alot of Bass and Middle so I had to adjust the treble (also on TIM) and presence on my amp so that it did not get to much grungy.
I done a few gigs with it and I really start to enjoy playing and fooling around with it.
The fast/slow button decides if you want the Leslie to spin fast/slow. It is really cool to change from fast and slow (and opposite) because you here the start of spinning, just like on an org. Leslie. Specially cool on solos and also on rythm playing.
The small slow/fast trim buttons lets you decide what kind of speed you want to add. The slow trim is based on the slow mode, so I like it when the slow trim is on full speed. Fast trim can be hard to understand at once but I kinda like it at around 1 o`clock. I use it to end up my solo on Freddie Kings Same old blues.

Mic placement adjust the depth of the rotating speaker effect. You can adjust from a stepless in your face to a more subtle Leslie effect.
Something else.

The Drive Amount needed alot of adjustment in the start because to much drive just mudded up the sound. The Leslie effect more or less drowned with full drive. The drive at about 11 / 12 o`clock gives you a cool SRV shuffle sound, well for me it does
It is also cool to add the TIM on top. Not much gain but volume, then the speed on slow, drive at 11 o`clock - it gave me a "scary" and nasty sound.

If it is THE Leslie effect I am not the one to answer because I have not tried enough Leslie pedals. I shure will get my hands on the BOSS RT-20 to hear and compare, but not in the near future. The Option 5 Rotation Destination Single is my first choice for the time being

boy that is sexy, and will probably fool the best of them on stage! Lots of options for dialing it in right for your rig.

this has been my weapon of choice for a while

but I have an old late 70s
201 phasor that I've true bypassed and with the Tim its wicked.

tvthewiredturtle wrote:

Bigbassape wrote:

Ronnie got his new bassman clone this week, and used it tonight. It sounds like a bassman, breaks up like a bassman, it has a bit more lowend than his 63, but that could just be the result of his 63 being 45 years old. I give it 2 thumbs up!


=g

well I'll be!
thats exactly how the Gomez responds in comparison, although I blame the
reissue tungsol power tubes and JJ pre amp tubes more than anything. I really love
NOS 6L6WGB's in a bassman.

Do you know if the Marsh were used on their latest record ?
That sound is a killer sound...

knudi wrote:

tvthewiredturtle wrote:

Bigbassape wrote:

Ronnie got his new bassman clone this week, and used it tonight. It sounds like a bassman, breaks up like a bassman, it has a bit more lowend than his 63, but that could just be the result of his 63 being 45 years old. I give it 2 thumbs up!


=g

well I'll be!
thats exactly how the Gomez responds in comparison, although I blame the
reissue tungsol power tubes and JJ pre amp tubes more than anything. I really love
NOS 6L6WGB's in a bassman.

Do you know if the Marsh were used on their latest record ?
That sound is a killer sound...

I dont believe RC had it at that point yet, but on their forthcoming Xmas CD, its
all there going into a randall Iso cab.
the blonde bassman is really versatile man.

ps. FWIW remember that you can take the Fender bassman blackface model
AB165 and have it "blonde'd". I had tophat amps and Gault amp repair do this
to a blackface and CBS Bassman silverface AB165 and it was just as good
as the Gomez. The reason I say this is because there is something very special
about the blonde era transformers that isnt replicated in the Gomez...BUT.. marsh amps
is using the Mercury Magnetics radiospares transformers and its said these are as close
as anyone is ever gonna get. I'm tempted to mod another blackface with those trannies

ruger9 wrote:

did you ever get one of the new Boss RE-20s, and if so, what did you think? I've got one right now, and while I think it's cool & all, it doesn't seem to be any better for the Setzer-type stuff than my AD999 or Echo Park. It's certainly got some mojo, and it's a good pedal, but I guess I was expecting the "end-all-be-all" slapback or something. Any settings you'd care to share? Am I missing something?

Thanks!

hello my friend ruger j ' lives in France
could you say to me if the maxon ad 999 is better than re20 boss to look like the stray cats rockabilly

I am debutant does not know how to regler a pedale of delay, the maxon will be my premiere pedale of delay could give me myself your parametres exact reglage (pic ?photo) for the SETTLE(ADJUST) the maxon ad 999 to look like the stray cats rockabilly
tank you very mutch friend

Elvis,

Have I talked to you over on the Gretsch forum? I remember someone from another country easking for my AD999 settings...

Anyway, I don't like the way the RE-20 changes the base tone. The pedal is not true bypass, and whether it is on or off it changes the tone, enough for me to not put up with it.

I much prefer the AD-999. I'm still looking for a "holy grail" delay without having to buy a tape delay, but I haven't found it yet.

AD999 settings? Just trust your ear. Put the repeats on ONE repeat, put the level AT LEAST at 12:00 (mine's even higher), and the delay time is just a quick slap, maybe somewhere around 10:30 or so? Just trust your ears.

ruger9 wrote:

Elvis,

Have I talked to you over on the Gretsch forum? I remember someone from another country easking for my AD999 settings...

Anyway, I don't like the way the RE-20 changes the base tone. The pedal is not true bypass, and whether it is on or off it changes the tone, enough for me to not put up with it.

I much prefer the AD-999. I'm still looking for a "holy grail" delay without having to buy a tape delay, but I haven't found it yet.

AD999 settings? Just trust your ear. Put the repeats on ONE repeat, put the level AT LEAST at 12:00 (mine's even higher), and the delay time is just a quick slap, maybe somewhere around 10:30 or so? Just trust your ears.

may I torture your soul with a forthcoming analog delay pedal meant to comp the
space echo.. Its not cheap but very interesting. I asked marc the builder to
incorporate the re-301s distinct op-amp preamp and eq... dont know if that'll fit
but check it out (I'm kinda salivating over its ability to comp the vintage deluxe memory man in addition to the space echo:
http://www.skreddypedals.com/skreddy_pedals_echo.htm

ruger9 wrote:

Elvis,

Have I talked to you over on the Gretsch forum? I remember someone from another country easking for my AD999 settings...

Anyway, I don't like the way the RE-20 changes the base tone. The pedal is not true bypass, and whether it is on or off it changes the tone, enough for me to not put up with it.

I much prefer the AD-999. I'm still looking for a "holy grail" delay without having to buy a tape delay, but I haven't found it yet.

AD999 settings? Just trust your ear. Put the repeats on ONE repeat, put the level AT LEAST at 12:00 (mine's even higher), and the delay time is just a quick slap, maybe somewhere around 10:30 or so? Just trust your ears.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=gEixK0XVByE
He my friend it is exact, we have deja discussed the gretsch sorry forum I have recu still no my pedale ad 999 that I bought there is shortage of stock
on this video there is parametre of reglage slap backpour re20 boss
elvis

ooohhh man........

That Skreddy looks very interesting indeed! I'm reading tho that it's digital, not analog? "Digital delay with analog filtering"?? What does that mean? And is 650ms enough for Sleepwalk? Because that's the longest delay I use.

$325... that's about boderline for me for a dealy pedal. Unless it's MAGICAL.

Also, I've been hearing raves about the tape sim on the Empress Superdelay, ever checked out one of those? It's also pricey, $450, but it does pretty much everything a dealy can do. Digital sim tho, not analog.

Here's some reviews:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=430179

ruger9 wrote:

ooohhh man........

That Skreddy looks very interesting indeed! I'm reading tho that it's digital, not analog? "Digital delay with analog filtering"?? What does that mean? And is 650ms enough for Sleepwalk? Because that's the longest delay I use.

$325... that's about boderline for me for a dealy pedal. Unless it's MAGICAL.

Also, I've been hearing raves about the tape sim on the Empress Superdelay, ever checked out one of those? It's also pricey, $450, but it does pretty much everything a dealy can do. Digital sim tho, not analog.

Here's some reviews:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=430179

yah.. I know, its still along the lines of a DL4.

Next to the RE-301 the best analogue tape echo I've owned is the
Fulltone tube take echo.... I miss it and I want it back.. BUT I want the
new version that is more akin to the space echo because its not tube powered
but rather solid state. Fulltone is going to make the echoplex EP-2, which I believe
IS the space echo we see in the studio with setzer recording.

There's a great interview with Brian Setzer in the Hoodoo Voodoo Lounge interview page, taken from guitar player 1983, when asked about effects he says he uses a little echo box an MXR, two knobs and you stick a battery in the bottom!

http://www.hoodoovoodoolounge.com/interviews/guitarplayer9-83/6.htm

shaker wrote:

There's a great interview with Brian Setzer in the Hoodoo Voodoo Lounge interview page, taken from guitar player 1983, when asked about effects he says he uses a little echo box an MXR, two knobs and you stick a battery in the bottom!

http://www.hoodoovoodoolounge.com/interviews/guitarplayer9-83/6.htm

its interesting though in those early yrs, either he really DIDNT know much about his
gear, or he didnt care because he would say " I think its an MXR " and say it had
"two" knobs...
the old Mxr delay's were green, big and had 3 knobs (they did make a cheap black
one from offshore. the time delay)


But.. if you catch old footage he always had a small purple-ish/ magenta stomp box
by the foot of his bassman cab. He was either running the
Boss DM-2/DM-3 analog delay or the Ibanez AD88 /AD-9 delay
like these:

he tvthewiredturtle
Hello friend
I looked for Many of pîcs and to look at many of video of the stray cats....I do not see a purple stombox quoted(esteemed) of him, have necks of pics ?
tank you

elvis wrote:

he tvthewiredturtle
Hello friend
I looked for Many of pîcs and to look at many of video of the stray cats....I do not see a purple stombox quoted(esteemed) of him, have necks of pics ?
tank you

you need more picts and videos!! mmmwahahahah
I'll try to get something posted.. I dont like to say this but I am so familiar with all
ibanez and maxon effects, its just gotta be an AD-9 or AD88.. 2 knobs!

In the 1983 US festival footage you can just make out a little box on the floor just in front of his Bassman Amp (stage right)
He is also wireless!

The idea of using a 60ft lead into an old RE201 to get the Setzer sound doesn't appear to hold a lot of credence.
Here is the man himself wireless into an analog delay pedal but still sounds pretty much the same!

shaker wrote:

In the 1983 US festival footage you can just make out a little box on the floor just in front of his Bassman Amp (stage right)
He is also wireless!

The idea of using a 60ft lead into an old RE201 to get the Setzer sound doesn't appear to hold a lot of credence.
Here is the man himself wireless into an analog delay pedal but still sounds pretty much the same!

You saw it too, good!! ITs there in the rockpalast shows and I think montreal..I've gotta check my dvds.

btw..
there is a slight bit of apples and oranges in the two different scenarios in that technically the capacitance load isnt that great with the wireless to the delay pedal that holds a slight buffered signal to the amp.

in comparison to the great capacitance loading happening with the 50ft guitar cables he uses now to the space echo. There is major
high end roll-off happening now from the guitar to the Space echo, BUT there is a very very well built preamp
circuit in that big Box boosting the hell out of his signal at the front of the preamps gain stage and then at the EQ sections output over to the amp.
You'll see that his amp settings have the treble AND the presence controls WAAAY up and with the blonde circuit
that guitar cable ends up smoothing out peaks before it hits the preamp.

Its alot like Brian May of Queen who likes 80ft cables going to his dallas range master treble boosters (upper mids booster really) over to his non topboost Vox AC30.